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Origin of Yeshu/Jesus In The Torah PART 2 Extra Sources

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0:14So now, continuing. You already see that the Gemara of the worst punishment matches the New Testament. Why? It says, Jesus himself says, I am in Gehinom, forever. In tzohar otachat, in poop. That's boiling. Lava of poop, forever. Why? I went against the rabbis. You look at his book. Regardless of who wrote it, everyone follows it. There are 200,000 versions of it. Agree he went against the rabbis. Already you have something that sounds kind of the same. Now you have another thing: this Mishnah, this week's Mishnah. This week's Mishnah says, Rabbi Yosei omer, "Kol hamechabed et haTorah gufo mechubad." And how we show proving that it's all falsehood. This Mishnah 4:8 is a continuation from 4:7. We did 4:7 yesterday. Obviously, Tefillat Shema is not planned.

1:29You see, here it says, Rabbi Yossi says, whoever honors the Torah is himself honored by people. Whoever disgraces the Torah is himself disgraced by people. So Rabbi Yossi, simple translation here is that whoever honors the Torah, whoever honors the rabbis, whoever honors the Talmidei Chachamim, whoever honors Hashem, Hashem will lead people to love him. The world around him Love Him. Why? Because He's showing you love. When you show Hashem love, you're showing love to His firstborn son. The world around you will show you love. On the other hand, if you show Hashem hate, you show His children hate. You desecrate His children, you desecrate His Torah. The world around you will hate you. This is, by definition, the beginning and the end of Jesus. By definition. What did he do? He went against the Talmidei Chachamim. He went against Chazal, the sages. What ended up happening? The world around them hated him. They crucified him. They killed him. They abused him.

2:53Even to this day, he's insulted on a regular basis by his own people. That's the first thing. The second thing is, how is this connected? It all depends on how we learn. Who is Rabbi Yosei? Rabbi Yosei himself is a proof of this other thing. Rabbi Yosei ben Halafta lived in Usha. He used to process hides. Aside from being a sage, he used to process hides. And he lived at the time of Rabbi Akiva, and he was a student of Rabbi Akiva, right at the time when the Roman Empire, yimach shemam v'zichram, had the Emperor Hadrian, Hadrianus. Hadrian in English, Abayanus in Hebrew. This is when they killed Rabbi Akiva; they shaved his skin off, and instead of complaining to God, what did he do? Kriyat Shema: Shema Yisrael, Hashem Elokeinu, Hashem Echad, and his neshama left his body on Echad.

4:09Sanctifying Hashem's name until the last moment of his life, when he was getting butchered by these little shaydim, his students said to him, "Rebbi, you could say the Shema before us. You can say the name of Hashem. You could kill everybody here. Why are you letting this happen? You're 120 years old, why are you dealing with so much pain?" He says, my whole life I've been trying to fulfill the mitzvah that I say every day in Kriyat Shema. My whole heart I gave. My money I gave. My life I never gave. And I was worried my whole life I'm never going to be able to give my life for Hashem. Now I finally have a chance after 120 years, and you want to ruin it for me? Till the last moment of his life, this Tzaddik Yesod Olam reached the 50th level, the highest level of Kedusha. The highest level of Kedusha sanctifies Hashem's name. Lehavdil, JC, what does he do when they crucify him? Complains to God. Why did you leave me? Wait a minute, didn't you guys just say he's God? What, did he leave himself? He left himself, where did he leave himself? In the bathroom? What happened?

5:31Would you leave me? How are you complaining about yourself? And if you're not yourself, if you're a Mashiach, how dare you complain about God? Well, don't you know that there's something called, don't you know there's such a thing that Hashem, everything is for the good? What happened? So here, Rabbi Yossi lived at this time. Why is this important? When did Rabbi Yossi live? That he was the student of Rabbi Akiva, that he was living at the time of Hadrian. Why? Why is this so important? Because Rabbi Yossi was the author, according to Rabbi Yochanan, in Massechet Yevamot, page 82, of a book called Seder Olam. Seder Olam. Seder Olam has two parts: Seder Olam Rabbah and Seder Olam Zuta. In Seder Olam Zuta, Rabbi Yossi, look at the Siyata Dishmaya here, Rabbi Yossi says,

6:31The Yeshu mentioned in the Gemara as the student of Yehoshua ben Perachya is Yeshu HaNotzri. He is Yeshu, the Rasha Merusha, who led Am Yisrael away from Hashem. The same one. The same one. Who? Rabbi Yossi. It's almost like you would think I planned this guy making a video about me. Maybe you think there's only one opinion because the Christian Church says so. The Christian Church claims it can't be the student of Yeshua ben Prahya. Eliezer HaKalir said it can't be the student of Rabbi Yehoshua ben Prahya. Why? He says Rabbi Yehoshua ben Prahya lived almost 200 years before historical records say that. Jesus lived because Jesus lived at the time of Hadrian. Here's the problem: the BOC left at the time of Hadrian. So you're gonna tell him who he saw, who he didn't see. He actually lived there. If Yeshua, Jesus, whatever you want to call him, Yeshua, whatever you want, call him that.

7:47If he lived, he would have known, hey, this guy walked on water. Hey, this guy, I don't know, caught some fish. This guy sold candy. This guy got whatever. You would have known. Hey, Yeshu, ma nishma, how are you? What's going on? He tells you, hey, what's up? High five. Something. You should do teshuva. Something. He says, I was alive. I wrote a book. In the book, it's historical records. Historical records of what happened at the time of Adrian Yeshu are nowhere to be found. Nowhere to be found. There are only two places that talk about Yeshu: the New Testament, like I said, 70 to 300 years after he died, and none. No newspaper wrote about him. No journal. No little baby that wrote a report. You know, they asked little kids in school, "Who is your idol?" Abba is my idol. The baseball player is my idol. The, I don't know, Smurfs are my idols. No one said, no one wrote a little school report. Jesus, who walked on water according to their nonsense, is my idol. No one said it. No one wrote anything. Now you have, you live in Florida, there are, I don't know, there's sports, there are different camps and so on. If a little baseball team, little league team, seven, eight, nine, ten-year-old kids, play a game, there's some newspaper that will write about this game.

9:17Grand scheme of the world, this game is not really important. No one really cares about the game other than the parents, really. But some newspaper will make a big enough deal of this game and will write about it in a newspaper. If the game is a championship game between two towns, two cities, or two countries, they may even go on the national news, even though it's a game for ten-year-old kids. Right? Somebody will write about it. Someone will write a journal about it, a newspaper article about it, something. So you would think, if the Mashiach arrived, or God in human form arrived, someone would write about it. Shabtai Tzvi they wrote about. Someone would write about it at the time. Something. A journal, a letter, a love note, something, a show, I don't know, a reality show or something. Here's a reality show where a woman named Mary cheats on her husband, but it says that God made her pregnant instead. I don't know; something would happen. Why is there only one record? Isn't there another source? Let's see what the text talks about it and...

10:35Tells you, "No, they don't want you to know. No, no, no, it's not him. It's not him." What do you mean, "It's not him"? He lived at that time. That's the only record. No, no, there are other sages that say it's someone else. So let's see what the sages actually say now. The story goes as follows: At the time of King Yanai, he killed many-many chachamim. And Shimon ben Shetach's sister was actually King Yanai's wife, and she sent a letter to say that things have calmed down. Yeshua ben Perachia, who was Jesus' rabbi, fled to Alexandria of Egypt with his students. But after things calmed down, Shimon ben Shetach sent him a letter and... many-many chachamim. And Shimon ben Shetach's sister was actually King Yannai's wife, and she sent a letter to say that things have calmed down. Yehoshua ben Perachiah, who was Jesus' rabbi, fled to Alexandria of Egypt with his students, but after things calmed down, Shimon ben Shetach sent him a letter and Told Yeshua ben Perachya that things have calmed down and he could come back. So on the way, he stopped at an inn, like a hostel or a cheap hotel, and he said he was hosted very nicely and respected. And he said to the student sitting next to him, "Yeshua, what a nice ba'alat habayit (hostess), such nice people are hosting us with kavod (respect), very nice."

12:06Jesus says he thinks that Yeshua ben Perachia, kodesh kodeshim (Holy of Holies), is talking about how good she looks, instead of saying, "Oh, it's nice that they're hosting us nicely," meaning it's... etiquette manners. You have to have it, especially the bent-up. This Tanna Yeshua over here thinks that he's actually talking about how good she looks or how bad she looks. So what does he say? "No, what are you talking about? She's ugly. She has round eyes," meaning like she looks like a sheep. Who is he said is due to his rabbi? The rabbi says to the shopkeeper, "Wicked, this is what you do? This is what you occupy your time with, looking at women? This is what you've learned from me?" and he kicks him out. He kicks him out. Yeshua tries to come back; the first two times he comes back, Yeshua ben Perachya rejects him.

13:13To see that it's authentic teshuva. The third time he comes back, Yehoshua ben Perachya was planning to accept him, but he was in the middle of Kriyat Shema. As you know, halacha says you're not allowed to stop Kriyat Shema. Not allowed. Even if there's a snake climbing your leg, you're not allowed to stop Kriyat Shema and start talking to people. If a snake goes around your leg, you're not allowed to stop; you have to continue Kriyat Shema. So, of course, if a tembel over here wants to say, you know, something, you're not going to stop Kriyat Shema. So what does he do? He tells him like this with his hand, like, wait a second. Without saying anything. Wait. Jesus was too egotistical to wait. He thought that he's rejecting him again. And he says, okay, I'm going dafka against the Chachamim. I'm going against the Pharisees. He called them Pharisees, Chazal. He called the sages Pharisees. I'm going to go against them. What is he going to do? He's going to start... Getting people to follow him, he started using sorcery and different magic to get people to follow him. He became a Ba'al Ov. Yehoshua ben Perachia thought about it. He said, "You know what? He's still a Jew. Let me go save him." He humbled himself even more and he went to him. He said, "Chazor b'cha, do teshuva, come back." I...

14:37It says, page 47 says, I learned, Yeshua says, I learned from you that once somebody becomes a, once you lead people astray, you become, you lead other people to go against God, you have no more tshuva. And he left. He didn't want to do teshuva. It's not really true. Meaning, what the actual lesson is, what the Torah says, it's not that there's no teshuva, it's that once you become a chotei harabim, once you become a min, that gets other people to go against God, you don't get help from heaven to do teshuva. You can always do teshuva, but you don't get the siyata dishmaya that a regular sinner would get once he wants to do teshuva. Teshuva is always accepted. It's just a matter of you're not going to get the extra help from a chef, which means it's going to become much more difficult to do teshuva. By Yeshua, Yeshua, Jesus, whatever you want to call him, he didn't listen to the rest of this. He just listened to the first part, so he left. So now these Messianics don't want you to believe this is the same Yeshua. So already we have this Mishnah A, B, or C.

15:52Bar Halafah verifies the same issue, the same one. Let's continue. In Tosafot on Sanhedrin 103a, it gives commentary on Tehillim (Psalms) 90:10, and they say, "May your son never be a..." Like the saying, may you never have a son or a talmid that spoils his own cooking, in public, like Yeshu HaNotzri. This commentary on this pasuk states that you should always pray that you never have a son or a talmid who ruins everything, leading others to sin, like Yeshu HaNotzri.

16:58It says it in Berachot also. It says, may we never have a student that spoils his own work, like Yeshu HaNotzri. Berachot 17b. So here we're talking about this Yeshu. Is this Yeshu the same one? Rabbi Yehuda HaLevi, the same Rabbi Yehuda HaLevi that we talked about, that wrote the Kuzari, that had the debate with the... Muslim guy with the Christian guy won the debate. He writes in ma'amar number three, siman 65 in the Kuzari, that his student was Yeshu. It's the same Yeshu that started Christianity. This is 900 years ago. Already, you have source number two, much closer. than anyone in recent history that says otherwise. Continue. Rabbeinu Yaakov ben Rabbi Meir Tam, Rabbeinu Tam, his son, his son Rabbeinu Yaakov, he says in Tosafot on Masechet Shabbat, page 104b, Yeshu was the Yeshua ben Perachyah student, the Yeshu that started Christianity. This is, again, almost 900 years ago.

18:27Rabbi Yitzchak Ben Yosef HaYisraeli in Yesod Olam. It says the foundation of Christianity started in the days of Yehoshua ben Perachya due to his student Yeshu. Again, Rabbi Yitzchak Abarbanel. Rabbi Yitzchak Abarbanel, one of the greatest minds that ever lived. But he was also very familiar with Christianity. How was he familiar with Christianity? What was his job? He was the treasurer of the king of Spain. When? During the Spanish Inquisition, when they killed us and expelled us for being Jews. After we won the debate, they didn't like it. Losers indeed in a commentary on the Book of Daniel. He wrote a book called "Mayan Elosh Yeshuah," and he says the following: Many are trying to fool the people by saying that Yeshu that's in the Talmud, who is the student of Yehoshua ben Perachiah, is not the same Yeshu from Christianity.

19:51Could those fools of today who were not there at the time tell our sages, who saw with their own eyes what happened? Now he's saying this while he has the Spanish people trying to kill us. He doesn't care; he shamed it. Why, if there was ever a time to lie, this would be the time. Save yourself. No saving or nothing. This is the truth. Don't sugarcoat the truth. Don't be politically correct. They want to kill us? Die. Don't make it like the Talmud is different than what it is. Why? It's Chilul Hashem. Rabbi Aharon of Lunel. Rabbi Aharon of Lunel, in a letter printed in Sefer HaChachamim, Mekorot HaYamim, Oxford, 5448, states the following: "I did an intensive investigation and calculation of the Christian calendar and whether it began with the birth of that person, meaning Yeshu."

21:20Confirmed it's a big mistake. The Christian calendar is a mistake; they claim that their calendar started with his birth or death. There's no connection whatsoever. Yeshu was in the days of Yehoshua ben Perachiah, and I confirmed this with Christian scholars. Christian scholars of his day say, "Yeah, you're right. This calendar that they have is wrong because Yeshua, their Jesus, lived almost 200 years before, 150 years before. Their calendar, the Christian calendar, has no root or foundation." Rav Yom Tov Lippman in Sefer HaNitzachon, Siman 332, says that Yeshu who was the Notzri was Yeshua ben Parachia's student. And what the Christians are saying about him being born at the time of Huldas, meaning Hadrian, is completely false. It was well over a hundred years later.

22:46Meaning 150 years later, the same exact time frame. As we said, the BOC confirmed it instead of Allah, which is nearly 2,000 years ago at the time. So we have not just proof from... 500 years ago, 800 years ago, 900 years ago. We've proved them 2,000 years ago. At the time this is supposed to be happening, people that witnessed it. In Seder HaChakhamim, Mekorot HaYamim, Oxford, 648 part 1, page 196, it says Yeshu died well over a hundred years before the destruction of the Beit HaMikdash. And he was the same student of Yehoshua ben Perachia that's mentioned in the Gemara. The Ra'avad, in Sefer HaKabala, says the historians write that Yeshu was the student of Yehoshua ben Perachia in the days of King Yannai, which was over 110 years earlier.

23:55The Christians say that he was born, but the truth is in our hands. The truth is in our hands as the Mishnah has not changed, and there are many, many others that say the same. There are a few that say otherwise. The predominant opinion, the overwhelming majority of the opinion of the sages, is the same issue, the same thing, the same thing. Now, the ones that have a different opinion also have a different shitta on who he was altogether. There are about a handful of different opinions on who he was. Tosafot HaRosh writes that the issue is different.

24:55The ones that are mentioned in Sotah and then in Sanhedrin, both were resha'im. They used sorcery and led other Jews to sin. Both were minim. Rabbi Yehuda HeChassid also agrees and says there were two different Yeshus mentioned in the Gemara, but both were resha'im. It doesn't help them whether it's this one or that one. They're both wicked. They're both in Gehinom forever. It makes no difference. But then there's the one that they're probably going to try to hold on to, the debate, the famous debate by Rabbi Yechiel of Paris. Rabbi Yechiel of Paris had a famous debate with a heretic called Nicholas Donin. This is written in Nitzachon Vikuhim, page 84. And Rabbi Yechiel of Paris did everything possible to prove

25:59Yes, you that's mentioned the camera is not the same. Yes, not at all. Yes, you'd have Christianity not even mentioned in Judaism at all. Not mentioned in Judaism at all. Why? Why is it not mentioned at all? Because if you look at the history and what happened at the time, Nicholas Domnin was trying to pass a decree to kill all the Jews for killing their god, for killing their messiah. To save the entire people, we have to use our brains. With you, so how are we going to see why we can't run away in time? We can't fight them. What are we going to do? I'll tell them it's not the same guy. Well, you tell me otherwise. Our Torah—you're going to tell me who it is. I get this out of it because they don't know how to read anything. So he's not arguing that it's not the same guy because it's not the same guy. He's arguing because he's trying to save our lives. He's trying to save millions of people. It's pikuach nefesh. He's changed the whole thing for you. Shabbat is on hold for pikuach nefesh.

27:17So here you see that the overwhelming majority of the sources indeed prove that this Yeshu yimach shemo vezichro is indeed the same one. There's no mistake about it. Yes? Yes, yes, yes. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. Thank you. So now, you see from here that this guy, same guy. Same guy. There is another opinion. Another opinion that he didn't exist at all. An opinion that he didn't exist at all because there's no record of him other than the Gemara. And if they're saying it's not the same guy, then he didn't exist. There's no record of him existing. That's another opinion. Another opinion is actually... That is called Ben Stada. Ben Stada. Ben Stada is a much more interesting story. Why? In Ech Tov Li Yisrael by Rav Yitzchak Efraim, he writes in Perek Bet, Perek Sheni, in Siman Vav.

28:43In the footnotes here, he writes the whole story of Ben Stada, that this used to be part of the Gemara, but the Christians took away everything. So it's mentioned, Jesus is mentioned in the Gemara, but if you look at the English translation of the Gemara, it's not mentioned. His name is not in there. Yeshu is not in there. In some Hebrew versions, he's in there. Some, not all. Why? Because the Church put a knife to our neck and said, "If you don't remove it, we're gonna kill you." So the question is, if it's not the same guy, what do you care? If it's not the same guy that's boiling in, uh, in a, uh, in feces right now, in a jacuzzi of feces, what do you care if he's in my Gemara? It's not the same guy. What do you care? Why would you sanction us? Why would you put a sword to our neck? Why would you kill us? Why would you chase us? Why would you torture us for some guy that's not the same guy? Why? Because it's the same name. You know how many people have the name Yaakov? You know how many people have the name Yitzchak? You know how many people have the name Yeshua? There are a lot of people. So just because we use the same name... Why?

30:00There is another reason. Another reason is because many believe that this very same one, very same one, is either also Ben Stada or Ben Stada is the real one. Either way, it's also not good. Why? Ben Stada, why is he called Ben Stada? The Gemara says. Ben Stada was the son of Miriam Magdalene. In Hebrew, she's called Miriam Magdalene, which is the same thing. She used to be married to one of the Chachamim by the name of Papus ben Yehuda. Papus ben Yehuda... Papus ben Yehuda was a big chacham, but he was a jealous husband, so he did not allow Miriam to leave the house. So when he would leave, he would lock her in the house, and Chazal say this was not the right thing to do. You know he made a mistake. This led her astray, meaning it gave her an excuse to want to run out. What happened? She met a great boyfriend who would talk to her, like the story of Romeo and Juliet.

31:28From the window, he says, "Miriam, Miriam, when are you going to come down?" One day on Yom Kippur, that's what the Gemara says. One day on Yom Kippur, Papus leaves to go pray. This boyfriend, called Pandira, his name was Pandira, calls Miriam. He says, "Miriam, Miriam, how long are you going to be locked in? Want to come with me?" She runs away with him. She gets pregnant on Yom Kippur. Now, what happens to a woman in Judaism, a Jewish woman, who not only goes with a guy but is married? It's called an eshet ish. An eshet ish is subject to the death penalty. To avoid the death penalty, what did they do? They invented a story: God made me pregnant. Only ignorance brought it. The point is, that's the story. That's Pandira. So this Ben Stada was named after the mother. After the mother, that's called Sotah. She was a Sotah.

32:44Why? Because he was a mamzer. A mamzer is the son of a woman who cheated on her husband. So that's another opinion. And the Gemara says that Ben Stada, that's Yeshu. Either way, he could still be also Yeshu ben Parchia's student or not. Either way, all opinions agree that he's not good. That I don't know. That I don't know. It's possible. Yeah, it's possible. No, who knows? Oh, I know. You can't have kids, huh? No, you can have. Of course, you can have kids physically. But as far as his kids, they have to marry other mamzerim or converts. But it has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Why did he just kill her and beat him after she cheated on her husband? Who just killed him? The Jewish people, after they knew that she cheated on her husband. So now you have yourself quite a bit of information here, an overwhelming amount of information proving, sorry, proving that yes, my friends, the negative opinion about Jesus and Yeshu HaNotzri is indeed the same Jesus.

34:07Let's not fool ourselves into thinking otherwise. It is indeed the same person.

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